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    <title>topic Re: Normalize across trials using controls in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Normalize-across-trials-using-controls/m-p/901034#M106047</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;If it's just about calculating the ratio (or difference) per trial , you&amp;nbsp; can use the Normalization AddIn from&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://marketplace.jmp.com/appdetails/Normalization+GUI" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://marketplace.jmp.com/appdetails/Normalization+GUI&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;e.g. with the settings:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- column to normalize : Response&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- function: ratio or difference&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- grouping: by trial&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- subset: Control&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[The default aggregation is median, which works well even with just a single control and is much faster than the other modes.]&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="hogi_0-1758002547114.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/82622i38FD106EE045A699/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="hogi_0-1758002547114.png" alt="hogi_0-1758002547114.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2025 06:15:23 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>hogi</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-09-16T06:15:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Normalize across trials using controls</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Normalize-across-trials-using-controls/m-p/901012#M106046</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have a datasets of populations with a response. I triplicated the experiment, so I have 3 trials of data, but the response rate likely varies between trials. It is a hypoxia response rate, which is sensitive to things like humidity/temperature that I can't perfectly control.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Each trial consists of a population with different treatments, plus empty vector controls.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So like this, but with like 50 entries for each treatment/control per trial:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Trial&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Response&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1 TreatmentX&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;999&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1 Control&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 576&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2 TreatmentX&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1111&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2 Control&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 700&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3 TreatmentX&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 700&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3 Control&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 350&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So for this example the treatment is always above control, but control varies alot. I was thinking of using Dunnetts test to see which treatments are different from control, but I want to normalize the data to account for the trial day differences. The population sizes vary so I can't just use the total average for each day, but I should be able to use my controls to normalize each trial. How do I do this in JMP?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2025 02:06:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Normalize-across-trials-using-controls/m-p/901012#M106046</guid>
      <dc:creator>thestrider</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-09-16T02:06:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Normalize across trials using controls</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Normalize-across-trials-using-controls/m-p/901034#M106047</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If it's just about calculating the ratio (or difference) per trial , you&amp;nbsp; can use the Normalization AddIn from&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://marketplace.jmp.com/appdetails/Normalization+GUI" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://marketplace.jmp.com/appdetails/Normalization+GUI&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;e.g. with the settings:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- column to normalize : Response&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- function: ratio or difference&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- grouping: by trial&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- subset: Control&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[The default aggregation is median, which works well even with just a single control and is much faster than the other modes.]&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="hogi_0-1758002547114.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/82622i38FD106EE045A699/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="hogi_0-1758002547114.png" alt="hogi_0-1758002547114.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2025 06:15:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Normalize-across-trials-using-controls/m-p/901034#M106047</guid>
      <dc:creator>hogi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-09-16T06:15:23Z</dc:date>
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