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    <title>topic Correct use of a mixture design for formulation optimisation in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey, I'm a chemist trying to optimise three components in a formulation but have some limitations on them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All 3 = max 20% of formulation&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A = 0.5 - 10%&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;B = 0 - 5%&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;C = 0 - 5%&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;B + C = min 2.5 %&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, they don't all need to add to 20% e.g. can have an experiment with 0.5% A, 0% B, 0% C and then can balance with X.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've used a mixed design for this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A, mixture, 0.025, 0.5&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;B, mixture, 0, 0.25&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;C, mixture, 0, 0.25&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;X, mixture, 0, 0.975&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Linear constraint, B: 1, C: 1, &amp;gt; 0.125&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is this the best way to do this for a DoE? How could I compare designs looking at 2nd order interactions?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2025 15:47:03 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>DeepDormouse199</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-02-09T15:47:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Correct use of a mixture design for formulation optimisation</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Correct-use-of-a-mixture-design-for-formulation-optimisation/m-p/838167#M101435</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey, I'm a chemist trying to optimise three components in a formulation but have some limitations on them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All 3 = max 20% of formulation&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A = 0.5 - 10%&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;B = 0 - 5%&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;C = 0 - 5%&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;B + C = min 2.5 %&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, they don't all need to add to 20% e.g. can have an experiment with 0.5% A, 0% B, 0% C and then can balance with X.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've used a mixed design for this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A, mixture, 0.025, 0.5&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;B, mixture, 0, 0.25&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;C, mixture, 0, 0.25&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;X, mixture, 0, 0.975&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Linear constraint, B: 1, C: 1, &amp;gt; 0.125&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is this the best way to do this for a DoE? How could I compare designs looking at 2nd order interactions?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2025 15:47:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Correct-use-of-a-mixture-design-for-formulation-optimisation/m-p/838167#M101435</guid>
      <dc:creator>DeepDormouse199</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-02-09T15:47:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Correct use of a mixture design for formulation optimisation</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Correct-use-of-a-mixture-design-for-formulation-optimisation/m-p/838191#M101436</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/64898"&gt;@DeepDormouse199&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;The conditions you have at the beginning of the post and your mixture design conditions settings are different (particularly the min, max ranges of the components + the linear constraint for B+C). Also the example you provided for the total amount is not consistent with your constraint definition (as having only A at 0,5% will not respect your constraint of B+C &amp;gt; 2,5%). &lt;BR /&gt;I will do an example with the first settings provided, hoping that these conditions are the ones you're investigating.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;It seems your formulation does involve a solvant/QS that enables you to have a total content at 100%.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As the relative quantities of your components A, B and C are low compared to the solvant X of your formulation, you may not be interested in the role/impact of the solvant, but more likely to the effect of dilution/quantity of the components A, B and C. Moreover, as the sum of the quantities for A, B and C is not limited to a specific value, you may have two solutions :&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Either design it as you intended to do, with a Custom mixture design and adding solvant X as a mixture factor so that the total quantity is 100%. The drawback of this approach is that you use one factor in which you're not particularly interested in (ratio/quantity of X, that you could deduce from other components quantities, and that is not supposed to "interact" with other components). This mixture approach, combined with a model with main effects and 2-factors interactions, may require a recommended number of runs of 20 (if you add all 2-factors interactions between any component and X) :&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Victor_G_2-1739124930143.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/72694i5ECCC477A69A9EBA/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Victor_G_2-1739124930143.png" alt="Victor_G_2-1739124930143.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Resulting 20-runs mixture design :&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Victor_G_3-1739125012949.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/72695iA6E6C8B2AD65E105/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Victor_G_3-1739125012949.png" alt="Victor_G_3-1739125012949.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Another option could be to design an I-optimal design with the platform &lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/18.1/#page/jmp/custom-designs.shtml#" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Custom Designs&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;for A, B and C, setting the two linear constraints (B+C &amp;gt; 2,5% and A+B+C&amp;lt;20%), and specifying a Response Surface Model with all main effects, 2-factors interactions and quadratic effects :&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Victor_G_0-1739124481574.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/72692i8B0013D0F4632D22/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Victor_G_0-1739124481574.png" alt="Victor_G_0-1739124481574.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The default recommended number of runs for this design is 16 runs :&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Victor_G_1-1739124538317.png" style="width: 225px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/72693iE9401CF36140662A/image-dimensions/225x320?v=v2" width="225" height="320" role="button" title="Victor_G_1-1739124538317.png" alt="Victor_G_1-1739124538317.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;You can create a formula in the datatable to calculate the quantity of X you need to add to have formulations at 100%.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/LI&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;As these designs are created with different &lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/18.1/#page/jmp/factors.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Factors&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;type, you won't be able to compare the two options directly using the&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/18.1/#page/jmp/compare-designs.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Compare Designs&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;platform. But you can still generate various Mixture vs. Optimal factorial designs and compare the pros and cons in each design category.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I attached the two designs options mentioned.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hope this answer will help you,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:26:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Correct-use-of-a-mixture-design-for-formulation-optimisation/m-p/838191#M101436</guid>
      <dc:creator>Victor_G</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-02-09T21:26:30Z</dc:date>
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